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#1 OFFLINE   Hoogs

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Posted Jun. 15 2014 - 07:06 PM

Morning all,

 

I'm new around here and just wanted to see if I could get some advice.  I have recently ordered a Kimber Stainless Target II in 10mm and have also ordered a "Manson" 9x25 Dillon Reamer, Dillon 3 die set for 9x25, a whole lot of Winchester 10mm Brass and once it all arrives, my local gunsmith is going to order, ream and custom fit the barrel to convert it to 9x25...

 

In the meantime, I was hoping some people could offer advice on certain powders and charges?  I am only interested in shooting 90gr (Hornady or Sierra) and 115gr XTP. I have been loading for .357 Sig for a while now in my Glock 31, and have found Alliant Power Pistol to be my load of choice. It can get the 90gr up over 1700fps with good accuracy.

 

I have read some posts recommendin using LongShot, BlueDot and H110/W296... I was just curious to know if anyone had tried Power Pistol and what sort of results they got?

 

I would however be interested in hearing about any load data you could recommend for 90gr and 115gr Jacketed projectiles for 9x25 Dillon :-)

 

 

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Posted Jun. 16 2014 - 07:54 PM

Hoogs, welcome to the forum.  I have done Pull downs on several Double Tap and Underwood 9x25 Dillon, these results have been posted here in the past along with many of my testing loads, but more recently I posted on the 10mmFirearms forum.  http://10mm-firearms...pull-down-2687/

 

I first started with a Bar-Sto barrel conversion which I hand fitted to my S&W1006 5", had a very nice forum member here do my final reaming, he is in Ohio his name is Van.  Then I also got the Lone Wolf 3.78" for my Glock 29, but it is hard to get velocities up with the shorter barrels...but recently I got Lone Wolf the 6" barrel for the G-20SF as well.

 

I have tested with several powders and still working with loads using the Hodgdon CFE Pistol.  LongShot is a really good powder and IMR800X works best in the shorter barreled pistols.

 

I like the 115 grain bullet because their length is such that the seem to be more accurate.  I had some Zero brand 38Super JHP's 121 gr 0.3560" that were functioning really well.

 

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Posted Jun. 17 2014 - 05:48 AM

Thanks The_Shadow,

 

 

I appreciate your help :-)

 

 

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Posted Jun. 17 2014 - 03:50 PM

I don't know if you have ever stopped in at the GlockTalk forum but there is more 9x25Dillon info there as well; http://www.glocktalk...ad.php?t=228796

Do you guys get access to some of the same powders of there?  Or do you only have access ADI brands of powders?

 

Please let us hear of your experiences! 




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Posted Jun. 18 2014 - 05:54 AM

Thanks again The_Shadow,

 

Have good acess to ADI powders, but can occasionally get others... ADI does run pretty well in the .357 Sig with a 90gr... Only a few fps less than Power Pistol.

 

I will be trying to find supplies of LongShot and BlueDot :segrin:




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Posted Jun. 18 2014 - 10:17 AM

You're Welcome and good luck with your finding some powders and testing.   As I look at the ADI power selection, AP70 and AP100 seem to be in the range of many of the useful powders, but I have no access to those or data with those.  The VihtaVuori powders are an other that I haven't tried personally but Randy Shelly did have some results in his testing.  Some powders like Accurate Arms have changed recently, like AA#9 which used to have the "microspheres" and is now more of a "flattened ball".

 

If I had access to a pressure test barrel I'm sure I could develop some great rounds.  Hodgdon's "NEW" CFE Pistol powder does show some good characteristics (it is very close to Winchester AutoComp),  I have some rounds loaded, but I need to do some actual test. 




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Posted Jun. 25 2014 - 04:33 PM

Tested the 9x25Dillon with 10.2 grains Hodgdon CFE pistol powder from the Glock-20 with 6" LWD conversion barrel and Wolff non captive recoil rod and  22lb spring.  Was shooting for 1800 fps (pun intended)

0.355" 115gr JHP (not recovered yet)
10.2 grains Hodgdon CFE Pistol
350 CCI LP  (slightly flattened)
COAL 1.255"
Measured velocity 1702 fps (despite the leakage from the split casing) embarrassed.gif

This was an older Double Tap 9x25 casing, the recovered casing split along the body (work hardened brass?), possibly releasing pressure slightly and reducing the velocity some.  I'll test again to see if I get better results without a split casing.
Part of the issues working with unknown power values...I use older brass to find the weaknesses! rolleyes.gif

Hodgdon shows a 357SIG using the 115 gr HDY XTP with 8.2 grain CFE loading doing 1431 fps @ 38,400 psi

 

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Posted Jun. 26 2014 - 02:33 PM

Today's test of the Hodgdon CFE Pistol powder was better...no split case!  Velocity was measured at 1698 fps, bullet stopped in the second gallon water jug, fragmented badly.
 
0.355" 115gr JHP (see picture bullet recovered)
10.2 grains Hodgdon CFE Pistol
350 CCI LP  (slightly flattened)
COAL 1.255"
Measured velocity 1698 fps
 
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Conclusion:  LongShot powder is still a better choice in the 9x25Dillon.



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Posted Jan. 30 2016 - 09:10 AM

Another awesome 9X25 thread found!

 

I have a 6" 9x25 barrel for my Glock 20 Longslide. Probably will get a 16" 9x25 barrel for my 10mm DI AR.

 

I posted this as my sequence, I have all the dies now (I only have a little 9x25 brass):

 

A) 9x25 Dillon sizer/decapper die to form the neck on the 10mm brass

B) 9mm RCBS expander die to open up the neck to 9mm bullet size

C) LEE 357 SIG powder through flaring die to ready the case to accept seating the bullet.

D) Prime the cases

E) 9X25 Dillon die to seat the Speer 125gr. TMJ bullets to 1.260" OAL,

F) Crimp using 9X25 Dillon crimp die

 

Here in this pretty cool thread: https://forums.1911f...ad.php?t=507834







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