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Posted Jan. 07 2018 - 01:16 AM

Anyone here use them?  I am wanting to switch over from my HKS twist tops to these as they look more user friendly and faster.

 

I will be using them in a SP101 five shot 357 magnum. 




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Posted Jan. 07 2018 - 02:43 AM

Yep, I use them. I much prefer them to the HKS ( even though they are made in Kentucky ~at least they were~ ) they are more user-friendly and faster. The Comp I is more compact also. I use them in my Ruger SP 101 .357 Magnum.

I also use the Comp II in my Ruger GP 100 .357 Magnum.

I also use the Comp III in my Ruger GP 100 and Smith and Wesson model 10 when I play games, and also carry them in colder weather as the much larger size doesn't matter to much in concealing them, plus the larger size helps in handling them with cold hands. Plus the Comp III spring loaded and "eject" the rounds into the cylinder, which speeds up reloads some.

After using the Comp l,II, and III I will never buy more HKS speedloaders, I still have my old ones and use them some but the Safariland Comps are far superior.

Plus I have never had the Safariland Comps accidentally drop rounds because the knob got turned, the Safariland Comps don't work like that, the cylinder is what releases the rounds, so there is no accidentally turning the knob.

Like I said, I much prefer the Safariland Comps to the HKS speedloaders.


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Posted Jan. 07 2018 - 12:16 PM

Yep, I use them. I much prefer them to the HKS ( even though they are made in Kentucky ~at least they were~ ) they are more user-friendly and faster. The Comp I is more compact also. I use them in my Ruger SP 101 .357 Magnum.

I also use the Comp II in my Ruger GP 100 .357 Magnum.

I also use the Comp III in my Ruger GP 100 and Smith and Wesson model 10 when I play games, and also carry them in colder weather as the much larger size doesn't matter to much in concealing them, plus the larger size helps in handling them with cold hands. Plus the Comp III spring loaded and "eject" the rounds into the cylinder, which speeds up reloads some.

After using the Comp l,II, and III I will never buy more HKS speedloaders, I still have my old ones and use them some but the Safariland Comps are far superior.

Plus I have never had the Safariland Comps accidentally drop rounds because the knob got turned, the Safariland Comps don't work like that, the cylinder is what releases the rounds, so there is no accidentally turning the knob.

Like I said, I much prefer the Safariland Comps to the HKS speedloaders.

Thanks for the write up. My biggest issue with the HKS are the dropping of rounds. That knob gets turned too easily. I have two HKS that I have been using and have two of the Comp 1's coming so I can make the switch. 

 

I have a little more de-horning to do on my pistol on some surfaces that are smooth when the crane is closed but turn razor sharp when open. My unloading procedure has been cutting up my hand pretty good and after yesterdays practice session  my left hand is shredded.




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Posted Jan. 13 2018 - 02:44 AM

I got my loaders today. I sure hope I can get them out of the pouches fast as there is nothing on top to hold on to with these. I should have the pouches next week so I can work on how everything is going to work together. I do like the way they work...just push then in and they eject the rounds...no twisting the knobs.




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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 12:10 AM

I have been practicing with the Comp 1's and boy howdy I like them so far. My biggest concern now is how well they will come out of the pouches I ordered. The knob on top is not big enough to grab like the HKS brand. My hope is the front of the pouch is cut low enough to get your fingers under the speed loader to lift it out. 

 

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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 06:01 AM

Man, you're harshing my mellow. I just bought a bunch of HKS speedloaders for my new SP101. I was happy enough with a speed strip for my J-frame, decided to move into the speedloader world again. Now this thread, and I need to spend even MORE money for MORE speedloaders. When Mrs. Pepper complains, I'll give her your number and tell her you convinced me I had to do it, for the children and stuff...


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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 06:22 AM

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I have something like this. It's not a Safariland, and it's made of leather. I don't remember who made it and it's unmarked.

It's called a "split 6". It works well.


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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 06:34 AM

http://www.andrewsle...om/magazine.htm


It's more like this, but I know that it isn't from Andrews Leather.

I like it a lot, I have them for my Ruger SP 101, GP 100 and Smith and Wesson model 10.

Compact, light and simple. You unsnap the snap and the speedloaders is free to come out. Very fast.


I really like the Safariland speedloaders and the "split six" pouches for concealed carry. I have carried two infront of the holster and two behind the holster playing games, and had good amount of ammo "firepower".


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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 10:43 AM

I use the 3's  matches along with HKS and Dades.  I've never had any Comp 1's to carry with as I always just grab the HKS. The Dades are worthless for street carry. I went to the 3's because of being able to slam those rounds in on a dirty chamber in matches.  The Dades are fast but they do lack that little feature and if you drop one the rounds are going to leave the building.  

 

When the HKS came out and you carried them in your pocket you looked like a potato smuggler. When I got the 3's I felt like Sargent Schultz going to war... I'd use those 1's in a heart beat if I were in the buying mode.  Of course a full moon clip is GTG to and my 586 has been cut for those.

 

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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 01:06 PM

http://www.andrewsle...om/magazine.htm


It's more like this, but I know that it isn't from Andrews Leather.

I like it a lot, I have them for my Ruger SP 101, GP 100 and Smith and Wesson model 10.

Compact, light and simple. You unsnap the snap and the speedloaders is free to come out. Very fast.


I really like the Safariland speedloaders and the "split six" pouches for concealed carry. I have carried two infront of the holster and two behind the holster playing games, and had good amount of ammo "firepower".

I figure if the pouches I ordered don't work I will have to get a split six style to make it work......that was my plan. Like gun holsters...you have to try several before you find one you like. 




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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 01:08 PM

Man, you're harshing my mellow. I just bought a bunch of HKS speedloaders for my new SP101. I was happy enough with a speed strip for my J-frame, decided to move into the speedloader world again. Now this thread, and I need to spend even MORE money for MORE speedloaders. When Mrs. Pepper complains, I'll give her your number and tell her you convinced me I had to do it, for the children and stuff...

I had one HKS that I had played with for years and thought it was time to go big and get another and a pouch......then after I order them I find the Safariland stuff......another order went in. Now I will have two of each. The pouches I ordered will work for the HKS brand and I may have to order a different pouch for the Comp 1's. Who knows I may carry four loaders at once when it's all done  :laugh:

 

You can tell Mrs. Pepper that the HKS are for the range and the Comp 1's are for life and death situations.....that should fix that issue.....it's what I told my wife anyway.

 

Oh yea....don't go to a web site called Speed Bees either  :bellylaf:  :bellylaf: the competition stuff there will make you cry.




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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 01:10 PM

I sue the 3's  matches along with HKS and Dades.  I've never had any Comp 1's to carry with as I always just grab the HKS. The Dades are worthless for street carry. I went to the 3's because of being able to slam those rounds in on a dirty chamber in matches.  The Dades are fast but they do lack that little feature and if you drop one the rounds are going to leave the building.  

 

When the HKS came out and you carried them in your pocket you looked like a potato smuggler. When I got the 3's I felt like Sargent Schultz going to war... I'd use those 1's in a heart beat if I were in the buying mode.  Of course a full moon clip is GTG to and my 586 has been cut for those.

 

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I have been eyeballing the Speed bees stuff......must resist $30 speed loaders though for everyday carry  :laugh:




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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 02:12 PM

I have been eyeballing the Speed bees stuff......must resist $30 speed loaders though for everyday carry  :laugh:

 

Go buy a half dozen. It only hurts a little while..I know.  I think I have 30 Dades. Enough to load before a PPC match at one time.In USPSA I use thhe spring clips to hold any of the three.  I only carry six in a match so it's not bad.

 

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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 02:21 PM

 

Go buy a half dozen. It only hurts a little while..I know.  I think I have 30 Dades. Enough to load before a PPC match at one time.In USPSA I use thhe spring clips to hold any of the three.  I only carry six in a match so it's not bad.

 

Greg

I want to carry two on my belt at all times. I just want them user friendly and fast. I don't want to fumble around getting them out and they have to stay put when on the belt. If I had Flesh wounds 3d printer I would be making new knobs for the Safarilands so they mimicked the HKS knobs. 




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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 02:33 PM

I really never had an issue with the HKS. I feel they are pretty secure for  any use I was going to need them for when I carried them in the real world. Six loaded and 12 on a belt will USUALLY get it done. I know you can throw them pretty well and not have them fall out.  Sure beats trying to throw that old belt slide the USBP made us start with in 1979.  They were EVALUATING speed loaders in 1985 BTW. My old BP firearms instructor was tasked with that at FLETC.  The BP moved slowly..LOL  I'm surprised they weren't still wearing the brown shoes.

 

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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 02:46 PM

I am going to practice with both but I have twisted that knob when it was not ready and dumped rounds. With the Comp 1's I finally figured out the trick to them as far as the release.... Drop them in, push down and just let go of the thing and close the cylinder. Trying to take the loader away slows things down.....let go as soon as you hear the click and let it do it's thing. 

 

When my pouch gets here I will be able move on from just loading them to doing the full Monty. As I said earlier I expect to have to change pouch type at least once. I did get past dumping rounds out of the HKS too soon by correctly holding them by the loader and not the knob. 

 

I still have some time to dedicate to this before I will be proficient. I only wished I would have started this years ago. Not shooting in any competitions I never really had a need to get fast......I want to be fast now. 




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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 02:49 PM

I am going to practice with both but I have twisted that knob when it was not ready and dumped rounds. With the Comp 1's I finally figured out the trick to them as far as the release.... Drop them in, push down and just let go of the thing and close the cylinder. Trying to take the loader away slows things down.....let go as soon as you hear the click and let it do it's thing. 

 

When my pouch gets here I will be able move on from just loading them to doing the full Monty. As I said earlier I expect to have to change pouch type at least once. I did get past dumping rounds out of the HKS too soon by correctly holding them by the loader and not the knob. 

 

I still have some time to dedicate to this before I will be proficient. I only wished I would have started this years ago. Not shooting in any competitions I never really had a need to get fast......I want to be fast now. 

 

Fast is not fast. Smooth is fast.

 

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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 02:57 PM

 

Fast is not fast. Smooth is fast.

 

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True.....and right now I'm neither.

 

At my desk I can dry fire five, eject, load and dry fire five, eject and load and dry fire five......all inside 15 seconds. The first unload is using cases that wont fall out of the cylinder and must be ejected. Once I go to the belt pouch I know that will slow me down.....my goal is the same 15 seconds for 15 rounds from the pouches with live fire.  




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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 03:46 PM

That's a good goal. The best I've done was a shade under 9 seconds for 18 rounds. I can coast at 12 in 6 and the best I've done is 4.35 for twelve shooting 357 equivalent loads.



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Posted Jan. 14 2018 - 05:30 PM

Back when I worked security, I carried a 686 (in a Nelson break front holster no less) and HKS speedloaders. Come qualification time, the revolver shooters got an extra six seconds over the autoloader guys. The drill was fire two, reload, fire six. Something like 12 seconds for the auto guys, and 18 seconds for the revolver guys. This was done at the 10 yard line IIRC. I almost always beat the auto guys, and none of them were all that slow. 







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